In this short blog, we want to talk you through some changes we’ll be making to the economy. These changes will go live with the next update and will be the first of many economy tweaks that we hope will lead to a more positive player experience. As always, we’ll be monitoring the impact of these changes and will continue to make adjustments if needed.
We’ve been amazed at the positive engagement with adverts, and we’re so grateful for this support for the game. We can see that the store ad is much less popular than the ad in the daily rewards screen, so we’re going to remove the store ad and increase the frequency of the daily rewards ad. Instead of every 8 hours, you’ll now be able to view the ad in the daily rewards screen every 4 hours. We don’t expect anyone to watch all 6 of those adverts a day – but this change will mean that rewards are available more often when you log in.
Another change we’ll be making is removing the free pack and increasing the value of the kill pack to offset this. We want to make this change so that players are rewarded more for their effort in playing battles. We continually see how devoted our players are to Combat Cards, and we want to find better ways of rewarding people for the time they invest.
The final change is that we’ll also be adjusting the drop-rates of Rare & Epic cards, so that the drop rate for Rare cards decreases from 13.5% to 12.75%, but the drop-rate of Epic cards increases from 5.75% to 6.5%. This is more in line with the number of card copies that players need to upgrade these rarities and should result in a fairer system overall.
We have some really exciting content planned for the next few months, so keep your eyes peeled for more info on that soon. Thank you for your continued support of the game!
I don’t think the shop one is intentionally skipped. If you miss it, it is in an out of the way place and you don’t get a push notification about it like you do about free/kill packs. I bet if it went nest to the free packs you would see equal engagement.
Keep up the good work
Maybe the Store Ad is less popular as it’s a faff to go to the store, scroll down, hopefully not press anything else (eg you’re unintentionally trying to buy a bucket of coins and have to cancel that) before tapping the ad.
It’s not as user friendly as the Free Pack / Pack Ad being one tap on the main screen.
Sooo, if you’re removing the Free Pack, how about replacing it with the Store (Coin) Ad? 🤔
Then both ads would be in the same place and easily accesible 👍
Not gonna lie, none of these changes on paper sounds good.
You have a massive economical problem you have generated by greed as even high spending players can’t evolve their cards. Not even talking of players who are moderately spending or not spending at all.
And instead of solving it by increasing the rewards already existing, you go for « Let’s replace some rewards by others. Look, if you play 100 games each day, you’re going to earn more ! »
I will see what this update really is but you have probably managed to make me stop investing on this game.
To incentivize more continued play during the day would you guys be open to reducing the cooldown of the kill pack to every 4 hours as well? I find that if I don’t have campaign energy and there isn’t a kill pack available I don’t play as much aside from the occasional ELO push.
Losing the 100 free coins in the store feels like a big blow, it’s fine to get more cards but won’t be able to afford upgrading them at this rate! Might be a balance to look into unless a lot more coins will come out of the kill packs. Love the game but… need the 100coins for the emperor!
Please could you make it so people in Jersey (Channel Islands) can view the UK ads without using a VPN? Other games let me get loot by watching the same ads that the UK get.
Well personally I prefer the old way with the ad for coins because the coins are really hard to get in large quantities closer to end game so being able to get that 100 at the end game every day it’s been very useful in upgrading the cards and keeping it flowing I don’t have much in reserves only about two or three updates with how high level my cards are
Not happy with the removal of the free coins.
Bad move, don’t remove the free pack.
That’s a really bad news! Please, listen at your players, it’s a disaster !!!
Please bring back the free coin pack. I have not seen a substantial increase in the number of coins gained from kill packs or the ad pack
Thank you for less coins and plasma for PC players
To balance out the loss of the free coins would it be possible to get maybe a +10 or 20 coins from the free packs as well?
I understand we already get a decent amount of coins from kill packs, but for those of us still at lower levels, if we are going to be getting g more cards over time from the free packs, it only makes sense we get a handful of coins to help upgrade them as needed. I don’t know about others, but those free coins were very nice to get on the daily whenever I hopped online.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
-Nathan, Avid player and enjoyer of your game.
I just want more money..
I am a relatively new player (level 31). I was happy to discover this game, as I have been a fan of Warhammer 40K lore for many years, but I have neither the time nor the money for the table top game. I religiously watched the ad in the store to get the 100 coins, and I appreciated the regular free packs. I cannot say that I am happy with this development. It feels like a step backwards.
Great game
Could the kill back be more often also? Like every 6 hours?
Hört sich alles gut an. Habe momentan das Problem das im gewerteten Modus meine Punkkte nicht gezählt werden. Was kann ich tun?
I don’t like the changes. I’m getting less energy now to upgrade my cards. I guess your plan was for us to spend more cash you greedy !@&$%.
It seems like a decrease in coin generation which is a hit for newer players who dont benefit from earlier coin rewards.
maybe change the economy for players of lvl 50+?!
Agree with adding value to the kill pack. I strongly disagree with removing the free pack. The free pack is quite literally the only reason I log on regularly to collect each day. I don’t always have time to play 2-3 games to collect skulls to unlock a kill pack. I suggest adding value to the free pack instead of completely removing it. I honestly believe you removing the free pack is to further restrict coins and plasma even more so than what is already is being done. Thank you for taking the time to read my comment.
Sounds like good picks, maybe a suggestion… make tags work better in deck building/deck search.
Being able to use parts of the description or tags from the backside information, would be nice.
Hi, the store ad is “less popular” because you hid it at the bottom of the page. Come on, stop making it inaccessible then claiming nobody uses it. Give us back our store ad.
Hi the lack of fee coins is not a plus, it’s much arder to evolve now.Please fix it.Regards
Super Spiel nichts auszusetzen
Increases regularity is welcome, however the removal of free (no add) boxes is annoying and even more frustrating is the removal of the 100 coins ad because that is just going to slow progression so much. Coins are the major bottleneck for free2play. Recognise that please and give the coins back.
There is not enough gold rewards to evolve units…
The removal of the free pack will make it harder on the lower level players
Personally I would like to see the return of 100 coins per day. I am around the halfway point in terms of levels and see my biggest struggle in being able to consistently upgrade cards be coins. I’ve had to focus my upgrades on the higher cost cards to carry my builds as I can’t afford to upgrade lots of the smaller ones. This results in only running a handful of different builds as I’m not incentivised to try using my other cards.
Please stop increasing the size of memory needed to upgrade the game. It stops people from playing
Bring back the free pack. Taking it away even if you increase the kill pack and ad times is lame. The coins are out of balance. Not enough coins for upgrades.
good game but pay for win
NO BRING BACK THE STORE ADD. Ive had the sibgle view add for a little while now and im not impressed.
This is a significant drop in coins and an obvious money grab. 0/10 for the poor showing and the BS explanation. Typical GW money grab nonsense.
It seems you’ve also made it much harder to get kill packs. The game doesn’t seem fair at all anymore. I’m only able to go up against players with much higher leveled cards than me and I can’t win. I have thoroughly enjoyed the game so far and have been playing almost since it came out but it looks like my time has run out and I’ll need to find another game unfortunately. On a positive note this has been my favorite game ever and I truly enjoyed it.
Would it not make sense to reduce the kill box timer as well. If you want to promote use of the game. Often if there isn’t a campaign on or the kill box isn’t available. I just won’t play. I’ll wait until I’m going to get something out of it. I think it may be handy to have the monthly reward system show how close you are to the next reward on the main page.
I think it is a mistake to take away the free pack. This let players who became busy with thier own lives to stay in the game even if they could only go on once or twice a day. It seems that the ad being available more often is to make up for the lack of free pack. Almost as though this company would rather get paid every step of the way rather than give out even one free thing, even if that free thing is just a few imaginary cards on a mostly decent app.
Is there any way to make the matchmaking more fair ? i feel like i get put into games with grandmasters with no hope of ever being able to win ? Heros with over 300xp etc… you just know its a loss straight away. I would be happy to wait longer fir matchmaking as long as I got people i actually stand a chance of defeating.
Big fan of Warhammer.game is great
My friend started the game as a new player and when trying to play the standard wars he is completely outmatched by more experienced players, I have been playing for almost 3 years and I simply have high level cards, if it’s possible a system should be worked on to match players of similar levels together, to make it less daunting for new players. Thank you
I think a trading or sacrificial upgrade system would be interesting to implement. Like you put a rare card in the market, and you can ask for an exchange amount of rare, common, or legendary cards. It’s out of your control what you’ll get from other players.
This’ll also increase the importance of clans because you can get a more reliable trade from them.
Alternatively, you can sacrifice some of your cards for a rarer one. Clans can also pool together cards so they each get a legendary one.
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You are killing this game by greedy politics. How many players leave the game last months? How many players have choosen Tacticus? How many times we wrote on firum about idiotic matchmaking in ranked mode, not fair points, extremely bad support, slow gameplay and so on? And you want us to be more supportive? It’s bad joke.
These changes make the game unplayable. Increasing drop rates of epics dies not effect anything. Taking away gold. Literally the only way to upgrade cards means u can not make your decks stronger. If I get 15 epic cards I’ll literally have no gold to upgrade them. And that’s a huge if on the 15 same epic card. U need gold to buy them from the store. 4 hrs for watching an add. How does that help. Checking the game twice a day for two free 100 gold drops and 2 free packs and 2 adds was very doable . Now have to check in every 4 hrs for measly low rewarding add. All this would make sense if kill packs were not on a timer or a one hr timer but there not. U still can’t play the game for longer than 30 min with no rewards so this whole update bullshit.
Awful removing free pack is just scummy will now be uni stalling this app
I’m loving the changes so far, but I miss the free pack and store advert. It sad a good way to build up coins so I can upgrade my cards. I have an issue where I don’t get many coins and it seems to be by design.
This comment concerns a serious fraction name’s mistake in the translation of Space Marines into Polish. Nothing like “Kosmicznymi Marines” exists in that language. It should be translated as “Kosmiczni Marines”. In Polish grammar the very name ought to be written like I have pointed out. The used word ‘kosmicznymi’ is used differently (we have several different cases just as your Saxon genitive in the phrase e.g.”Tom’s cat”. Please correct the error.
Can the coin drop be increased due to the removal of the free coin ad video?
The intent is good, but this is not a good idea. Taking away the free pack and the coin video reward costs us 1/2 to 2/3 of our daily available coins, which were already the limiting factor in upgrading cards. Now that bottleneck is just going to get worse. More cards is great, but with no coins to upgrade them, it’s somewhat pointless. Maybe if the kill pack had a large increase in its coin drop to compensate? Or the remaining video pack dropped more coins? Also, one reason the store video ad for 100 coins probably wasn’t watched as often is that that video was hidden at the bottom and far less convenient than the video for the free pack. Less people are going to watch a rewards ad if they have to put effort into finding it in the first place. In conclusion, players need more coin flow, not less.
Change the way to buy cards I have trouble getting the cards I need for a build
More ads so you can take more of my money? Uninstall. Again.
Man. You guys are the worst.
Your games have become rather sad of late. I’m disappointed. The Warhammer mobile games have been the best in the past. Now you are just as bland as the rest with every update. Becoming more expensive and difficult. That is not how you encourage new gamers to join your community. Seems you have done so to keep your developer selves high in the ranks of your own games. Maybe you should get a girlfriend or a wife have some kids. You need a serious life change. I’m saddened to know a game I enjoy has fallen so low thanks for nothing.
Please bring the free coins back. That was the only way I could keep upgrading cards at the higher levels.
I feel extrange whith changes, but mayby are good thanks
Sounds good. Thanks for the hard work. It’s a great game.
Blöde Veränderung. Ihr zwingt die Spieler damit sich häufiger einzuloggen. Die Münzen für den Ad im Shop Bereich waren wichtig, vor allem für Einsteiger. Und ihr zwingt damit auch Spieler die keine Ads nutzen sie zu klicken. Euch ist schon klar das mit so einem Sche$% noch mehr Spieler von euch vergrault werden , oder Dev ? !!! Wenn ihr so weiter macht killt ihr irgendwann das game !!! Lasst euch was einfallen um Spieler anzulocken und ihnen das Sammeln zu verschönern , nicht so einen Mist.
Really bummed there isn’t a way to get coins on their own any more. It also always feels suspicious if a mobile game makes a change that gives me more ads to watch more often. When it’s crossing a threshold where too much of what you can get daily is locked behind it, I usually stop playing.
I like this game for all other reasons and hope this doesn’t continue to escalate.
Sounds good to me. Please get rid of the Orcs. Thanks
Nice ypu put time in to the game.
I’ve seen stuff like this before. Let’s be honest: this is about revenue. Corporate revenue. Why not just say so? If this is about increasing shareholder revenue—say so. If this about making up losses from some other failing or underperforming portion will of the company say so. If you need more cash to fund R&D say so. Is inflation is crushing you—say so.
Your corporate economy is a primary factor here, not the player’s economy, and you are masking that fact in lieu of using lawyer weasel words to sell people on your approved talking points.
I’ve spent a good bit of money on this game. You are selling this as a “new and improved” version of the game with features that benefit the user—buts its really old wine in new bottles. If you want to use reliable models to squeeze every ounce of revenue from your users—fine. Just have the stones to say so. The part you all still need to decide for yourselves is, when is enough, enough?
This is not a good update.
Hello, actually i used to see more often the Daily prise video than the coins One was becouse the videos of the coin One was harder to close becouse of the size of the X ti close It… It’s ridicuolous but true
In German
Bitte macht diese Änderungen rückgängig, bitte führt die 100 gratis Münzen wieder ein ihr nehmt so das tempo gewaltig raus. Mit euren Änderungen wird das Spiel nur Pay2Win
I get why the free card pack was removed but not sure as to why the 100 tokens was removed?
Pourquoi supprimer l’annonce du magasin ? Ca faisait plaisir
Sounds great. I will be less inclined to watch the daily rewards ad now that there is no free reward next to it. It felt a little like they were a unit together…
with regards to the store ad, it may have been watched less frequently as it was buried in the depth of the store, not at the top. I was watching the ad each day, then scrolling up to see what cards were available to buy, as the coins gained would offset the cost of some of the cards. Now i am probably less likely to visit the store…
Let’s see how it all pans out.
Keep sending them awards
The store ad was less popular cause it only activated every 12 hours. The recent changes hurt free to play players greatly cause that extra 100-200 coins a day were the only real way to make progress. Now people will have plenty of cards and no coin to do anything with them. The kill packs and ad packs ive open do not compensate the loss of those coins.
Ps. The battle sisters do not synergize with the battle sistersr leader well. Most battle sisters have hard shield ability and the leader provides 3 turn shields. However 1 attack uses up bothe the hard shield and a passive leader shield. To fix this the battle sister leader shield should only proc if the card WILL take damage. Of the hard shield can block it then a passive 3 turn shield should not be used
Hey guys!
Any chance we could get that old feature back where you tapped on the collection tab and it would automatically take us to the next available card that can be upgraded?
Y’all are fucking greedy bastards
At first I was very upset with the changes I noticed yesterday but upon reading the reason behind the changes I now agree and appreciate the boost to kill packs and legendaries! You make a great game but I’m Still Waiting for Bjorn the Fell-Handed and Villanova H’Stan to drop
I would like to suggest more options for upgrading cards. With so many available cards now, the odds of finding a the card you want to upgrade is incredibly small. Perhaps breaking the cards into factions and decreasing the time their available (say like rotate every 12 hours).
Hi there,
Could you perhaps adjust the coin reward higher for the ad pack now/kill pack.
We lose out on the free pack coins, and the 100coins daily now.
I have been enjoying this game especially the sync pvp event my appreciation to the team’s time and effort invested
Well I guess we will see how it goes, hopefully it will improve game experience and provide a positive challenge and gameplay
I’ve played thos game coming up to 4 years (I think) out of all the games I’ve played of any kind this game has survived many many phone changes. I love it, it always seems to be getting better. The only thing I would or could suggest, that I think for me would make it better, is some some of clan war feature. That in my opinion would make it a must play every single day. And would probably increase general play time.
Hi, I think the changes are OK!
I’d like also to make a suggestion.
why don’t you make all the factions count for the ranked mode?
Right now you only use 4 of them and is too time spending to bring the other at the top.
I think it will make the game funnier and more varied.
Thanks,
Michele
Hello, firstly just want to say I love the game, that being said one thing I would like to see is a way to scrap unwanted cards, the exchange rate doesn’t have to be great it just seems a shame to have cards which I don’t intend to use just go to waste. Again love the game.
Thanks
Keep it real
I am nearly honor rank 5, so a vast majority of my cards take 100+ coins to upgrade. Now, I only have an opportunity to earn 50-60 coins every 8 hours from the kill pack, instead of closer to 200-250 with the shop ad pack, free pack, kill pack and the ad. This seems like a money grab, through and through. I’ll not be watching a single ad, not spending any more money, and playing much less now.
This is an absolutely brillant change! No more getting a single epic out of 60 cards, now you get one out of 59!
Oh well, at least im going to save myself alot of time not playing due to the blantant cash grab this update is.
Hopefully the whales can keep you afloat as your ad revenues about to plummet.
When it comes to ranked mode as a lower player you run into higher players way to often. Another thing is most cards don’t have a counter to any other card so the higher cards just flat out beat the lower ones so if I have all level 3-5 cards and my opponent has 6-8 or higher I have no chance of beating his cards or I have to sacrifice many of my cards to beat that one card and usually he or she has a stronger card and I’m left with just my leader card which isn’t very fair.. and some of the leaders you can pick need buffs in order to play well, like there’s this one tau general in white armor who is extremely unfair o fight because he can buff his teams ranged attacks so much they practically one shot all cards even with shields also I think you guys should follow the lore on 40k like a imperial guardsmen could never take out a space marine in terminator armor at least not with ease most most terminator armors have extremely heavy shields I feel like adding some lore abilities into the game would heavily Diversify the game and make it much more fun to play ^_^
I think having a weekend tournament would be nice to have. Using a bracket method for individual players with the top 4 out of 5 players reciving prizes and the champion reciving a very nice prize pack of legendary, Rare cards with a decent amount of plasma. Or maybe having the choice of picking legendary and rare cards.
Ok sounds great
I find the updated “watch Ads” box tok big and imposing now although I understand why the changes have been made I would to see it not dominate as much of the daily rewards screen
I love combat cards and it continues to be the only game I consistently play on my mobile.
I find the updated “watch Ads” box too big and imposing now although I understand why the changes have been made I would like to see it not dominate as much of the daily rewards screen.
I love combat cards and it continues to be the only game I consistently play on my mobile.
Still new to the game, but love it so far
The removal of the freepack isn’t good at all.
There’s nothing left to open for players on Steam platform (there’s no more daily rewards for PC players right now) and also aims at creating a much larger gap between hardcore and casual players regardless of the device used to play.
As a casual player, the 100 coins from the pack in the store and the free one was giving me some cards, coins to upgrade cards time to time (if sparing them wisely for days) and hope to remain a bit competitive.
Right now there’s no much left for me to do that anymore beside unsintalling the game and forget about it.
Thanks a lot.
I really appreciate the care and attention you have to balance the game for all kinds of players.
However, the recent change to take away the ad for 100 coins blows a huge hole in player’s strive. The few coins available from boxes could never make up for the many cards waiting for upgrades in the first place, even before the ad was introduced. Additionally, the store relies on coins to buy the cards you want.
In light of player’s chance to customize their deck the way they want (>> coins for store), try out „new“ cards (>> upgrade cards) and not fully depend on the random content of boxes I strongly vote to reintroduce the ad for coins or strongly increase the amount of coins for the other sources.